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  • Roger - Dr Roger Prentice 7:30 am on August 27, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Baha'i in Process blog, , Dia-logos, Dialogic method, Dialogue, Human needs, , The keys to development   

    Baha’i human rights – or developmental human needs – are these the keys to progress? 

    I once asked on a course I was teaching this question, “What is the origin of human rights?”  Very quickly a woman from Sweden said, “Human needs.”  This struck a deep chord in me and I began to wonder how that might be the case and what were the implications for those of us that are interested in Baha’i-inspired development and education.

    EleanorRooseveltHumanRightsRecently I found this quotation included with Wendi Momen’s long list of human rights established within Baha’i writings.  The most significant aspect of the quotation for me is the assertion that in governments, and in religions, autocratic governance actually prevents (presumably true and desirable ) development;

    `Under an autocratic government the opinions of men are not free, and development is stifled, whereas in democracy, because thought and speech are not restricted, the greatest progress is witnessed. It is likewise true in the world of religion. When freedom of conscience, liberty of thought and right of speech prevail — that is to say, when every man according to his own idealization may give expression to his beliefs — development and growth are inevitable.’ Abdu’l-Bahá 1912

    Thanks Wendi – your list and this quotation really go to the heart of the matter don’t they?

    The free expression of opinions is not a ‘human right’ so much as a human and social necessity without which (true and desirable) progress is not possible. To achieve inevitable development and growth three conditions are necessary freedom of conscience, liberty of thought and right of speech. Pow!

    As someone interested in education I can see the importance of these three, not least because elsewhere Abdu’l-Baha establishes discursive method, or dialogue (dia-logos) as desirable method over book-learning.  Very simply Baha’i-inspired development and learning require the dialogic, and the dialogic requires freedom of conscience, liberty of thought and right of speech.

    Why are these needs?  To release effictively human potential both in relation to the individual, your son or daughter or pupils, but also for mankind collectively.  The Revelation of Baha’u’llah is not His Writings it is I suggest human consciousness – slightly manifest, mainly still in the potential state.  I dont say this just because of this;

    There are certain pillars which have been established as the unshakable supports of the Faith of God. The mightiest of these is learning and the use of the mind, the expansion of consciousness, and insight into the realities of the universe and the hidden mysteries of Almighty God. To promote knowledge is thus an inescapable duty imposed on every one of the friends of God. SAB p. 126-7

    But more because of this;

    Say: The first and foremost testimony establishing His truth is His own Self. Next to this testimony is His Revelation. For whoso faileth to recognize either the one or the other He hath established the words He hath revealed as proof of His reality and truth. Gl105

    So the task is to release potential, from our selves and from others – that I suggest is ‘the Revelation’  It = +/- x right actions.  By Revelation + – I mean the Revelation is human consciousness in two states 1) manifest and 2) potential.  If not then, “Where is the Revelation of Baha’u’llah – in the ink on sheets of paper?”   Right actions = those processes that we need to strengthern the transfer from the potential state to the manifest state.  That = the new civilization.  It seems continuous and multi-level dialogue supported by freedom of conscience, liberty of thought and right of speech are the keys.

    Thank goodness we can demonstrate this as a way of ‘teaching’ the world.  Nothing would undermine efforts more than rank hypocrisy.

    In the presence of God there is no room for hypocrisy………
    (Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Baha’u’llah v 2, p. 116)
     
  • Roger - Dr Roger Prentice 6:15 am on July 20, 2009 Permalink | Reply
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    “What exactly is religion, how’s it distinct from spirituality and what’s it for?” 

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    QUESTION: “What exactly is religion, how’s it distinct from spirituality and what’s it for?”

    Here are a few notes;

    1 “What is religion?” – Religion is organised spirituality –

    a) self-organized, integrated, focused consciousness (+ or -) in the case of the individual,

    b) group-organized in the case of sects etc.

    2 “What is spirituality?” – Spirituality is that which isn’t physical.  Includes the intellect!

    3 “Again what is spirituality?” – Spirituality is feeling (heart) – preferably supported by reason, and right action.

    Dawkins = ultimate narrow view

    Karen Armstrong & Terry Eagleton = broad view

    4 “Again what is spirituality?” – Spirituality is encounter and experience in how we relate to the unknown and unknowable – to Ultimate reality + reflection.

    Subsequent to encounter spirituality becomes the eyes with which we see, the ears with which we hear

    Belief, objectively true or false, is the meaning and motivation we derive from encounter, and allied experiences + reflection + study.  This provides our worldview.

    5 “What is mysticism?” – Mysticism (the real stuff c.f. self-delusion or mental illness) = the heart of spirituality, and (the means to) true religion –

    ”Mystical experience…..does not seem to me to be anything other than first-hand religious experience as such. This is, however, the core of religion…..…the explanatory function of religion is secondary and derivative.” (Hick)

    6 “What is the worldview that each of us has?” – Our worldview is how we ‘read’ the world. Our worldview includes that of which we are conscious, plus that which derives, less consciously, from enculturation & socialization.

    7 “How is our worldview formed?” – Enculturation, socialization, beliefs and world-view determines our identity – and therefore our actions.  (E.g. –  Taliban – no school for girls, blow-up priceless Buddhist sculptures!)

    8 “What is the process of true religion and spirituality?” – Becoming more fully conscious of Oneness, and its implications, and acting accordingly, gives us a sharpened sense of  our purpose.  This also links to Abdu’l-Baha’s definition of faith as ‘Conscious knowledge + right action’.

    9  So religion =

    a) PERSONALLY – encounter experiences, inc. of Ultimate Reality, and reflectively what we make of them

    b) SOCIALLY – any agreed set of relationships, teachings and customs held in common with any religious group of which one has membership, to which we subscribe.

    10 Rituals, prayer, meditation & other practice = remembrance + short-cuts to possible encounter experiences (but thoughts of the washing or shopping may get in the way).

    11 Progress in spirituality is measured by regularly bringing oneself to account – in relation to the standards of your spirituality, world-view and religious group/s (if any).

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    Etymological issues:

    The English word “religion” is derived from the Middle English “religioun” which came from the Old French “religion.” It may have been originally derived from the Latin word “religo” which means “good faith,” “ritual,” and other similar meanings. Or it may have come from the Latin “religãre” which means “to tie fast.”

    Start doing your own research:

    One good starting point is provided by the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance.  See HERE.   Two of the definitions I like best from this source are;

    George Hegel: “the knowledge possessed by the finite mind of its nature as absolute mind.”

    Attributed to Paul Tillich: ‘Being religious is “the state of being grasped by an ultimate concern” 

    Others are see HERE;

    The Religious Tolerance group tell us that David Carpenter has collected and published a list of definitions of religion, including:

    1 Anthony Wallace: “a set of rituals, rationalized by myth, which mobilizes supernatural powers for the purpose of achieving or preventing transformations of state in man or nature.”

    2 Hall, Pilgrim, and Cavanagh: “Religion is the varied, symbolic expression of, and appropriate response to that which people deliberately affirm as being of unrestricted value for them.”

    3 Karl Marx: “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.”

    Don Swenson defines religion in terms of the sacred: “Religion is the individual and social experience of the sacred that is manifested in mythologies, ritual, ethos, and integrated into a collective or organization.”

    4 Paul Connelly also defines religion in terms of the sacred and the spiritual: “Religion originates in an attempt to represent and order beliefs, feelings, imaginings and actions that arise in response to direct experience of  the sacred and the spiritual. As this attempt expands in its formulation and elaboration, it becomes a process that creates meaning for itself on a sustaining basis, in terms of both its originating experiences and its own continuing responses.”

    5 He defines sacred as: “The sacred is a mysterious manifestation of power and presence that is experienced as both primordial & transformative, inspiring awe & rapt attention. This is usually an event that represents a break or discontinuity from the ordinary, forcing a re-establishment or recalibration of perspective on the part of the experiencer, but it may also be something seemingly ordinary, repeated exposure to which gradually produces a perception of mysteriously cumulative significance out of proportion to the significance originally invested in it.”

    He further defines the spiritual as: “The spiritual is a perception of the commonality of mindfulness in the world that shifts the boundaries between self and other, producing a sense of the union of purposes of self and other in confronting the existential questions of life, and providing a mediation of the challenge-response interaction between self and other, one and many, that underlies existential questions.”

    CONCLUSION to QUESTION: “What exactly is religion, how’s it distinct from spirituality and whats’ it for?”

    “What exactly is religion,”

    Religion personally = spiritual experience i.e. sacred, ‘transcendence of self’ or ‘encounter’ experiences, inc. of Ultimate Reality, PLUS the organizing of doctrine that the group does with doctrines, ritual etc.  Individual religiosity might be highly consonant with the official group – or less so. Why?  Because ultimately people choose to believe what they will.

    Religion socially/organizationally =  any agreed set of relationships, teachings and customs held in common with any religious group of which one has membership, and to which we subscribe.  The ‘to which we subscribe bit’ because many Catholics don’t agree with e.g. no-contraception and I once found that 40% of a class in a RC school believed in reincarnation!  

    In groups religious people may be more or less spiritual (or truthful or hypocritical) than those who are not religious!

    “how’s it distinct from spirituality and”

    Religion is a) ways to institutionalize organized spirituality and b) ways for maximising the chances for more religious experiences, and for hearing good reflection on such experiences.  Moral behaviour and service action should follow!  Spirituality is a natural and almost omnipresent part of being human like philosophising, creating, loving or breathing.  Spirituality does necessarily need religion but, at best, can greatly benefit from it.

    “whats’ it for?”

    Religion, and responsible spirituality, are means to help us become more fully, positively and integratedly human in order to be of service to others.  In doing this we develop higher-order qualities and virtues.  It is not unreasonable to suppose that the absolute form of such qualities and virtues are the names and attributes of God, and that in acquiring them to an above average degree is worthy of the appellation ‘truly religious, truly spiritual’.

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    To read the full article by the Religious Tolerance group go HERE

    Reference:

    Hick, John, (1981) Mystical Experience as Cognition in Understanding Mysticism, ed. Richard Woods, London: The Athlone Press – p423

    My final question – “Why are there so many religious intolerance groups?”

    Dr Roger Prentice – main site = http://www.pre.me.uk

     
    • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi 5:18 am on July 22, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator, this paper I presented at the 1st Int. Conf. on Revival of Traditional Yoga, held at The Lonavla Yoga Institute (India), Lonavla, Pune in 2006. The Abstract of this paper is given below:

      The Universe includes everything that exists. In the Universe there are billions and billions of stars. These stars are distributed in the space in huge clusters. They are held together by gravitation and are known as galaxies. Sun is also a star. Various members of the solar system are bound to it by gravitation force. Gravitation force is the ultimate cause of birth and death of galaxy, star and planets etc. Gravitation can be considered as the cause of various forms of animate and inanimate existence. Human form is superior to all other forms. Withdrawal of gravitational wave from some plane of action is called the death of that form. It can be assumed that gravitation force is ultimate creator. Source of it is ‘God’. Gravitational Field is the supreme soul (consciousness) and its innumerable points of action may be called as individual soul (consciousness). It acts through body and mind. Body is physical entity. Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system. Electromagnetic waves are its agents through which it works. This can be realized through the practice of meditation and yoga under qualified meditation instruction. This can remove misunderstanding between science and religion and amongst various religions. This is the gist of all religious teachings – past, present and future.

      AND

      ‘In Scientific Terminology Source of Gravitational Wave is God’ I have presented this paper at the 2nd World Congress on Vedic Sciences held at Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi on February 9-11, 2007. The Abstract of this paper is given below:

      For Centuries, antagonism remained between science and religion. Science and spirituality require to be fused. An integrated philisophy is to be developed. It is written in the scriptures that entire creation is being maintained only through love or force of attraction. In Persian it is known as quvat-i-jaziba. It is on account of this force that the entire creation, which come into existence through the combination of small particles and atoms, is being maintained and sustained. The creation or universe includes everything that exists. In the universe there are billions and billions of stars. They are held together by gravitation and are known as galaxies. Sun is also a star. Various members of the solar system are bound to it by gravitation force. Gravitation force is the ultimate cause of birth and death of a galaxy, star and planet etc. and various forms of animate and inanimate existence. Gravitation force is the ultimate creator, sustainer and destroyer of the universe. These are the three attributes of God. Providence has located within the human body a spiritual faculty. When this faculty is developed like physical and mental faculties we find that Truth-the goal of science and God-the goal of religion are one and the same thing.

      • Roger 3:13 pm on July 23, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Hi Anirudh

        Thanks for sharing the outlines of your fascinating papers.

        I’m not qualified to dialogue with you on your subjects but I do have a few things to share that I hope will interest you.

        May I reply in the next day or two?

        Roger

    • Roger 6:50 am on July 24, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Hi Anirudh

      1) I thought you might enjoy this quotation. It speaks of love very much as gravitational force. Most interesting to me, as an educationalist, is the fact that the writer presents the affective as the driver and realizer of the cognitive – as well as ‘that which makes of the parts a whole’ (one of the major questions in Holistic Education). What do you think Anirudh ?

      ”Abdu’l-Bahá on Love
      Know thou of a certainty that Love is the secret of God’s holy Dispensation, the manifestation of the All-Merciful, the fountain of spiritual outpourings. Love is heaven’s kindly light, the Holy Spirit’s eternal breath that vivifieth the human soul. Love is the cause of God’s revelation unto man, the vital bond inherent, in accordance with the divine creation, in the realities of things. Love is the one means that ensureth true felicity both in this world and the next. Love is the light that guideth in darkness, the living link that uniteth God with man, that assureth the progress of every illumined soul. Love is the most great law that ruleth this mighty and heavenly cycle, the unique power that bindeth together the diverse elements of this material world, the supreme magnetic force that directeth the movements of the spheres in the celestial realms. Love revealeth with unfailing and limitless power the mysteries latent in the universe. Love is the spirit of life unto the adorned body of mankind, the establisher of true civilization in this mortal world, and the shedder of imperishable glory upon every high-aiming race and nation.1

      1. Selections from the Writings of `Abdu’l-Bahá (Haifa: Bahá’í World Centre, 1982), p. 27. ‘

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      2) Does this guy’s work have any relevance to your work?

      http://www.spaceandmotion.com/

      3) I’ve written some 40 posts that are about (more or less) the raising of consciousness;

      http://sunwalked.wordpress.com/category/consciousness/

    • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi 3:19 pm on July 26, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you Roger. Truly, Love is the Creator and Sustainer and Source of Love is God.

    • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi 5:43 am on July 28, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      According to His Holiness Huzur Maharaj, the Second Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith, “Love or Force of Attraction (i.e. the Force of Cohesion) is the Param Tattva or the chief ingredient of the creation, i.e. the entire creation has come into existence out of Love and is sustained by Love and in the same manner, all the activities of the world are being carried on by means of love or interest and affection”.

    • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi 7:11 am on November 10, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Black Holes and Indian Sriptures

      It is said that John Michel predicted the existence of Black Hole in 1784. But its description is available for hundreds and thousands years back in the scriptural texts of Indian Origin.

      What are black holes? The kind of star implosions are black holes. Inside a black hole is nothing except a point of singularity. This is a result of the dying star continually collapsing into itself, becoming denser and denser, until it is a point with no radius and infinite density. From here again a huge explosion, big bang, occurs and a new creation comes into existence.

      Lord Krishna (about 3000 B.C.) says in Bhagwadgita:

      “Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, reason, and also ego; these constitute My nature eightfold divided. This indeed is My lower (material) nature; other than this, by which the whole universe is sustained, know it to be My higher (or spiritual) nature in the form of Jiva (the life-principle)…all beings have evolved from this twofold Prakrti, and that I am the source of the entire creation, and into Me again it disappears”. -7.4-6

      “…during the final dissolution all beings enter My Prakrti (the prime cause), and at the beginning of creation, I send them forth again”. -9.7

      The above discourse of Lord Krishna clearly indicates about the process of Implosion and Explosion.

      In the terminology of Religion of Saints, Black Holes are termed as Mahasunn, an infinitely vast region at the top of the Brahmand. Mahasunn is also known as Par Brahm Pad in the terminology of saints. Saint Kabir who was born about 600 years ago in 1400 A.D. used this term in His Discourses. His Holiness Soamiji Maharaj, Founder of Radhasoami Faith has also given a very detailed description of this mysterious region at various places in Sar Bachan Nazm (Poetry).

      I am fully convinced that the views of religious beliefs should be given due consideration on Cosmological research.

      His Holiness Soamiji Maharaj (1818-1878)describes Mahasunn in Hidayatnama in Sar Bachan Nazm :

      Having sojourned there and having enjoyed the glory thereof for a very long time, the spirit of ` this Faqir moved on, in accordance with the instructions of the Guides. After traversing five arab and seventy-five crore yojans upward, the spirit entity effected ingress into the bounds of Hahoot and witnessed the panorama of that region. There an expanse of ten Neel is enveloped in darkness.

      The depth of this dark region cannot be fathomed. The spirit went down one kharao yojans, still the bottom was nowhere to be found. Then the spirit turned upward and proceeded on the path chalked out by Guru. It was not considered advisable to go down right to the bottom of this region I his region is called Maha-sunn There are four extremely subtle sub-regions there, the secrets whereof have not been revealed by any Sant. There are prison cells for the condemned spirits, ejected from the court of the True Supreme Being. Although these spirits are not subjected to any trouble and they perform their functions by their OWN LIGHT, yet, as they do not get the Darshan of the Lord, they are restless. However, there is a way of their remission also. Whenever Sants happen to pass that way with spirits reclaimed from the lower regions, some of these spirits fortunately get Their Darshan. Such spirits go along with the Sants who very gladly take them to the court of the Lord and get them pardoned.

      His Holiness Soamiji Maharaj writes : “Mahasunn is enveloped in dense darkness. Four hidden or subtle sounds are audible there.” (vide Sar Bachan Poetry, Genesis and Dissolution of Creation, Bachan 23, Shabd 1, stanza 79). I have already stated in my above comments that the descriptions of Mahasunn had sharp resemblance with those of black holes.

      Now the Astronomers have clained to have heard the sound of a black hole singing. The Black Hole is playing “the lowest note in the universe,” said Dr. Andrew Fabian, an X-ray astronomer at the Institute for Astronomy at Cambridge University in England.

      Dr. Fabian was the leader on an International Team that used NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory to detect the black hole’s notes as ripples of luminosity in the X-ray glow of the cluster. (Vide Hindustan Times, New Delhi, September 17, 2003, p.12

  • Roger - Dr Roger Prentice 7:36 am on July 17, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Apostasy, Apostates, Baha'i human rights, , Beauty, , Family life, Freedom of expression, Goodness, Government, , Human rights and responsibilities, Humour, Hypocrisy, Individuals, Infallibility, Justice, Marriage, Morality, , Truth, Universal House of Justice, Virtues, Walking the talk, Wendi Momen list of human rights   

    Wendi Momen’s list of Baha’i human rights – a few comments and questions 

    Wendi published a terrific list of human rights and responsibilities culled from the Baha’i writings – if you haven’t seen it it’s HERE

    Here are a few observations on Wendi’s excellent list of human rights and responsibilities.

    Human rights poster1) It missed out the sweet, healing balm of – humour.  You can tell how civilized a country is by its attitude to satire and other forms of humour, (and we, quite rightly, are proud of Omid!).   I guess humour is a sub-set of ‘freedom of expression’.  The UK is still a great country – satire and humour generally was never in better shape in my 68 years (I know, I know I look so much younger!).

    2) It wasn’t clear from the post and the ‘raw’ presentation of  the list whether it,

    a)      is what we as Baha’is want for ourselves, or for others, or both.

    b)      is applicable to governments in the wider community or to religions, especially those religions that see themselves as subsuming  political government into their religious viewpoint, as in Islamic republics – or again both.

    2) It strikes me that the list goes from international to personal without visiting intermediate levels such as communities or families.  I don’t doubt that Wendi or some other able author will write about how those rights and responsibilities are very useful in thinking about other spheres such as a) marriage and family life and b) how communities and individuals relate to each other – e.g. as in ‘It takes a village to raise a child.’ A country is a family writ large.

    3) A very useful list of individuals who clearly didn’t have the right view of current Baha’i human rights and responsibilities has been supplied by Dr Moojen Momen.  An analysis is HERE and the original paper is HERE

    An earlier Christian apostate

    An earlier Christian apostate

    This surely establishes another right in which we can set aside a whole range of admonishings such as not dealing harshly with the writings of men, avoiding gossip, back-biting and character-assassination, being forbearing, seeing with a sin-covering eye, no public humiliation, not taking on the responsibilities that rightly belong to institutions etc.

    Terrific!  I’m all for privatizing the calling out of lists of apostates to the world – I’m working on my first list right now.  (By the way I had quite a problem tracking down the above links – my particular browser kept insisting that what I was looking for was Mormon Apostasy – very annoying.)

    4) Purely theoretically of course, since the UHJ has absolute power in being infallible, and is in no way answerable to the electorate, it has the ‘right’ to abuse any of the rights in any way shape or form it decides.  Is that a problem or have I misunderstood?

    5) Wendi didn’t say – it wasn’t of course the purpose of her post –  how the many moral injunctions of individuals or governments relate to safeguarding  human rights and responsibilities.  Moral injunctions? – any of the virtues or names and attributes of God.  My preferred list starts with justice, truth, beauty and goodness.

    The worst thing of course would be to have a great big gap between public protestation and inner reality – the hypocrisy of not ‘walking the talk’ or demanding a set of rights that we, in turn, refused to give.  Thank goodness that’s not the case.

    Thanks again for the great list – can you help with any of  my questions Wendi, and any chance of a list of sources?

    'Fear of Choice' painting by Baha'i artist Mona Shomali

    'Fear of Choice' painting by Baha'i artist Mona Shomali

    Mona Shomali’s site is HERE

    News update ‘ Prisoner of Conscience’ executed see HERE

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  • Roger - Dr Roger Prentice 8:33 pm on July 14, 2009 Permalink | Reply
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    Where do human rights come from? 

    Where do human rights come from?

    The best answer I heard was, “Human needs.”

    A simple list of human rights

    Right to live, exist.

    To work for anyone

    To own property

    Speech

    Security

    Safety from violence

    Protection from the law

    Not being arrested unless there is reason to think someone has committed a crime

    Having a fair trial

    To be seen as innocent, even if a person is arrested, until the person is found to be guilty by a fair court

    To be a citizen of a country

    To vote

    To seek asylum if a country treats you badly

    To think freely

    To believe and practice the religion a person wants

    To peacefully protest (speak against) a government or group

    To a basic standard of living (food, shelter, clothing, etc.)

    Education

    Health care (medical care)

    That any adults of full age, no matter race, religion or sexuality, can marry.

    A simple list of human rights
    Not everyone agrees on what the basic human rights are. Here is a list of some of the most recognized ones:
    Right to live, exist.
    To work for anyone
    To own property
    Speech
    Security
    Safety from violence
    Protection from the law
    Not being arrested unless there is reason to think someone has committed a crime
    Having a fair trial
    To be seen as innocent, even if a person is arrested, until the person is found to be guilty by a fair court
    To be a citizen of a country
    To vote
    To seek asylum if a country treats you badly
    To think freely
    To believe and practice the religion a person wants
    To peacefully protest (speak against) a government or group
    To a basic standard of living (food, shelter, clothing, etc.)
    Education
    Health care (medical care)
    That any adults of full age, no matter race, religion or sexuality, can marry.

    More answers to the question of where human rights come from HERE

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    SunWALK Baha-i-inspired model and PhD are HERE

     
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